Realm Of Empires Terms of Use - some explanations and clarifications

Some of you have asked for some more explanation / examples of breaking Realm Of Empire's terms of use (http://new.realmofempires.com/tou.aspx) which may result in a ban. Here is my take on it:

Creating multiple Facebook accounts

if we find that you have personally created and are playing more than 1 account on a realm, all your accounts will be banned on all realms, permanently.

Creating an account for the sole purpose of aiding another account

if we find one account playing for the sole purpose of aiding another account, even if this account is controlled by a different person, this account will be banned.

If we find that the beneficiary is aware of this and is participating willingly, he/she will also be banned.

Using automated scripts (bots), including client side scripts like Greasemonkey scripts.

Any automation without clearing it with us first is considered cheating.


Exploiting a bug - A player that discovers a bug that gives him/her an unfair advantage is expected to report the bug to realmofempires.com immediately. Exploiting any bugs to your advantage is prohibited.

You will only be banned for this if it is clear you significantly benefited from a bug to gain advent age over other players and have willingly not reported it or have exploited a bug to damage RoE (ex -corrupting the database)

Posting offensive material
Any posts (emails, forum posts, village names, player names, etc) that are discriminatory in nature with regards to religion, race, sexual orientation, age, or sex will not be permitted.
Physically threatening a player is not allowed (although in-game threats of attacking are ok).
Insulting other players unless this is in regards to their game play ability.
No pornographic material is allowed in Realm of Empires.

It is our general policy to offer one warning for such offences unless it is serious. Every case will be judged seperatelly. If we feel it was premeditate and deliberate, it may result in an immediate ban.

For example, insulting a player in a 'heat of the battle' will earn you warning. Threatening death or harm to him/her *in real life*, even if in a 'heat of battle' will result in an immediate ban and a report to Facebook.

Threatening death to someones village/troops/empire is NOT considered an offense. Spearing lies (I mean propaganda!) about another *player* (not the real life person!) is perfectly OK. Basically, keep the game life and real life separate.

REPORTING OFFENCES

report all offences either on the discussion board or by sending an in game message to roe_team


IF YOU GET BANNED

If you are banned, you are banned for life and from all realms. There is no appeal process. You will not get a reason why you were banned beyond 'breaking the TOU' so no use asking.

ARE WE UNJUST?

Some of the banned players will claim innocence on the discussion board, this is expected. After all, how many guilty criminals are there in the prisons of the world? if you ask them that is!


To the by stander it may appear unjust that no explanation is offered but doing so would only allow others to hide better. This is why we will not reveal our tactics.


Also remember that the game was not created so that we can go around banning active players. Banned players are usually active, very active players. The kind of player a game needs so we have no intention of baning them and take great care before doing so.

DID YOU GET A WARNING IN GAME?

Just to be clear - if you got to this article because you got a notification in the 'Game News and Info' section in-game, have no fear. This is not a targeted warning; ie, this message is not for you specifically but rather a general reminder to all.

89 comments:

X said...

First of all, I think it's kind of lame that, if helping my friends is the reason I wanted to play, I would essentially risk being banned. So, I get punished for being a generous, support oriented person. nice.

Secondly, I don't see how saying "you were banned for breaking rule #whatever" is revealing your tactics. You don't have to say more than that, but that would go a long way to answering a lot of the concerns of perfectly good players, and it doesn't reveal a damn thing about how you figure out that someone is breaking that rule.

The reason I'm saying anything is that by refusing to do something so simple as make the above statement when someone is banned, you are actively creating a situation that makes most people distrust you. You say the guilty will claim they are innocent - guess what? It's a two way street - For the exact same reason that the "guilty" can't be believed, neither can you when you say that your motives are totally innocent. Just as the banned only have their word in this community, apparently that's all you've allowed yourself too. And frankly, it pulls the same amount of weight.

Anonymous said...

Well, I was told not to take any of our clans inactives,,,because I had too many villages,,,but the diplomats are doing so,,,not a fun "game" anymore,,,so I'm quitting,,,who cares who takes my villages now when I respawn!!

Marcus said...

This guy X is hilarious, to think he took all that time to write all that...has anyone read it all. I stopped when i heard the first tissue hit the ground, man some people dont like bein called dorks and then go write a book on how a games not good enough. Heres a tip for your dilema, GO OUTSIDE !!!!For the love of god its a freakin game, and secondly not a **** one of them cares your not happy lol. But in all it did give me someone to laugh at so thanks for that

Anonymous said...

"Some of the nanned players"... Typo - or does nanned mean something worse than banned?

DarkIce said...

"Creating an account for the sole purpose of aiding another account

if we find one account playing for the sole purpose of aiding another account, even if this account is controlled by a different person, this account will be banned.

If we find that the beneficiary is aware of this and is participating willingly, he/she will also be banned."

this is stupid rule, this game is all about helping each other, and you might have some good friend in the game and want to help him, that cant be any wrong, how can you decide if someone is helping another to much!

CORNELIUS said...

I AGREE 100% with DarkIce above conclusion. + The issue of duplicate accounts should be narrowed to 1 player PURPOSELY create many accounts to create an ADVANTAGE in the game-plan. Yet many time [like in my case] you have family members whom I INVITED to join RoE, playing from the SAME computer. What to do? We might be even in the same clan. BE MORE SPESIFIC in the rules and focus on the "FUN" part more....

Anonymous said...

Thanks team for posting this note and all the comments made. A response to the comments made by the users would be useful. It would help the players know if the creators are listening to the people who are actually playing the game; without us the game would be nothing! Some of the comments of course carry more weight than others e.g. aiding other players and knowing what rule was broken if you got banned.

Anonymous said...

Tad concerned - One of my kids has joined the game very recently - Use the same pc - but at different times.

The banning without explanation and no right to ask why seems a bit strange!!.

So - are different family members allowed to play using the same pc? Wopuld like an answer.

Anonymous said...

Sharing the same ip is not the grounds that can get you banned.

Using an account for your sole benefit is against ToU

Regards,
RoE_Team


-------Original Message-------
From: GOTV_IcE
Sent: Jun 23 09 06:32:58
To: roe_team
Subject: Room-mate

I have a room-mate that I just invited to play this game, I hope that isn't grounds to get me banned... we share the same IP address being as we live in the same house...

^ pm I made to the ROE team, and their response. Answers some of your questions about same ip, same computer and such.

Anonymous said...

I think you should tell the player exactly why they were banned and also publicise it. If people could see exactly why others had been banned it could stop some accidental bannings. After all, some players need to see a lot of examples before they finally understand the rules.

My son was banned from an mmorpg game and we were never able to find out why. As far as we were concerned he had not violated any rules. It was extremely frustrating at the time.

Terence said...

In Archmage, they allow players from same fixed/in range of IP, but the players need to inform the admin first that they are from the same batch, and of course get the approval & acknowledged before proceeding.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for the examples.

Anonymous said...

this is retarded stop posting here guys its kinda obvious no member of the team has or is going t read this.... so x you make a good point but it is was waste of your time....

Anonymous said...

personally reading all these comments I can understand the multiple accounts issue. Personally I think that this game should investigate first, like sending of emails to the actual facebook accounts to warn if it keeps happening they will be banned. However, at the same point how does the game know if you havet put various pictures and used a different email in order to get more villages. I think that they should loo at the transactions in the game and verify if they is something fishy going on that is the only way to find out what the hells going on.

I am not guilty of nreaking any rules as I have a life and playing games all the time isnt it, however people can easily set up different email addys and make their profile look like it is someone elses. People should just play by the rules and nothing will happen.

Anonymous said...

also at the end of day you shouldnt be working on your mates all the time as every1 has to work hard and wait for their silver. That could look abit dodgy to this games advisors.

I wouldnt see a problem if everyone was online at different times using the same computer I feel that unless you own different villages if money keeps going in and out of a different village that looks dodgy as hell really guys and girls eventually you will get caught, and you know you would lie through the skin of your teeth in order to keep doing it.
This game is right to ban those who do cheat and use scripts because nobody likes a cheat, So play by and live by the rules as the game is concerned! Games arent everything so get a life if you dont already have one!

Anonymous said...

I am new to roe but I have different opinion on the BAN THING TOPIC...

a)Banning on internet is not feasible
b)You will find some and forget some, this too is unfair.
c)If someone is taking extra efforts, fair, let him / her do it.So many people have multiple facebook accounts.
d)Somehow it increases the popularity of the game.Number of users increases.
e)Some times you are going to throw "Good user"(ur term) out by mistake, this is loss.
f)Aren't you being unfair by selling the Servants at cost?
So take it easy, the BAN word is not digested by every one.Some times it hurt my dignity.It's a free game, but every user does make you money, free testing and popularity. So respect the users and u will taste success..

Sorry that is what my INTERNET marketing class teaches me,rest ur wish...

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Anonymous said...

too extreme dude. this is a game, and what the fun if you conquer alone and not conquer with your clan? you are suppose to help your clan grow and help each other out. banned for helping? Best excuse. banning is not the way to solve any problem, dealt with a warning if u think he is abusing his right. What the point of being in a clan when in the end, clan is taken over by admin? LMAO!

Anonymous said...

I am getting all kinds of warnings from having 2 family members play on the same computer. This is ridiculous. I already read the terms of use. Getting to the end of my rope here real fast.

Bubaribaman said...

RESPONSE TO ALL WHO FEAR FAMILY MEMBERS WILL GET BANNED or other because of using the same IP:

We NEVER ban based on IP. Have no fear, don't cheat, you will have NO problems.

The rules are there exactly to ensure there is fun.

Anonymous said...

But is it not their game? That means it's their rules. If you don't like their rules or methods, you don't have to play. If you play fairly, for the true enjoyment of the game, you almost certainly will not get banned.

I don't think what they are doing is unfair. Maybe they had problems with this in the past, and they don't want it to happen again. We don't know their history, their mind, or much else about them, so don't say that they're doing horribly, because what would you do in their position? Quite likely, the same thing they are.

Anonymous said...

Okay here is an example of what I am worried about!

I log onto my account with my fully upgraded silver mine and send all my silver to my wifes village to help here upgrade her silver mine all the way up then after her's reaches 40 she sends all her silver to my second town and I send all my silver to my second too too upgrade my Silver mine there as fast as possible.... Now this is already done with players via clan forumns that dont share the same IP and its considered strategy! But because it comes from the same IP and we are on a Multi witch hunt are we then going to get the ban stick??? For doing normal ingame strategy??

Haiku_Guy said...

I'm a little shocked that there is no appeal process. Could it not be possible to ban someone in error?

Without an appeals process there is no way for the aggrieved party to work with your team to solve any problems.

If your stance is that your team doesn't make mistakes therein lies your problem.

Zahri said...

""if we find one account playing for the sole purpose of aiding another account, even if this account is controlled by a different person, this account will be banned.""

how about stewardship? there will be cases whereby players would be unable to play the game for a few days maybe even week due to real life commitments... so if he appoints a steward for that period of time.... would that risk him and the steward being banned??

And what if the player and the steward are of the same clan? the player isn't around to help his clan members who is in need of support.. can't the steward act on his behalf? even if it means supporting the steward's own village? since they are clan members..

if no reasons would be given for banning then as you said..

""After all, how many guilty criminals are there in the prisons of the world?""

Even those criminals are told for what charges they are punished for... i NEVER heard of criminals imprisoned for no known reasons...

so banning for no explanation is like "the administrators will do as they please" then might as well not create rules or terms and conditions for the game...

""Banned players are usually active, very active players.""

please specify on ""active/very active""

if it means activity every few hours then what if the person happens to be using the pc all the time and could frequently check on his progress? is that very active? does that means the person is eligible to be banned?

Anonymous said...

Hmm, don't you think you're taking their examples a little too literally? They are human beings, too, capable of their own judgement, not just mindless robots behind a computer screen. Think about it. It says if you make an account for the sole purpose of aiding another account. (Keywords are "SOLE PURPOSE.") Do you honestly believe that you will get banned that way, or are you just making up excuses and hypothetical scenarios to challenge them?

Anonymous said...

"Creating an account to help someone else"

All this means is just creating an FB account and just helping someone... giving all your silver, troops, etc. and not helping anyone else, not your clan (if you're in one), no one, nada.

Helping a friend (usually a friend you invited to the game) shouldn't get you banned, as long as you help other people, and not JUST that person. Sending a few troops/silver isn't bad, but sending everything you have to help him would get you banned.

I'm guessing that's all that rule means.

Anonymous said...

um... where are the answers to thease questions? is there any answers to thease questions? or is this just a place for random players to sit around and call each other idiots? l think some of the questions are good and would like to hear the answers even if they are redundant.... eg. one brother starts playing a game, he invites his brother to play, the second brother finds that he enjoys the game. they both play the game and have fun. they of course are in the same clan, and would help each other out when ever possible. A rondom player sees that they are in a very small clan (of 3) and invites the second brother to join their clan. the second brother dicline the offer saying no thanks I probably would have eccept that I only started playing because my brother asked me to join..... now would that be grounds for expolsion? because the second brother dosn't want to jump ship because a better offer comes along? will he get reported the banned? I think this is a valid question and would very much like an answer. dose this fall into the ""if we find one account playing for the sole purpose of aiding another account, even if this account is controlled by a different person, this account will be banned."" catagory?

jason said...

its a way of cracking the whip.

Raj. said...

RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF REALMS 3 it says:

join with your friends to create mighty CLANS, raise armies... CONQUER and DEFEND TOGETHER"

now **HOW** do we DO that if we can't send each other SILVER without Fear of getting BANNED!!

And we are using ONE internet connection [Router to LAN]...can my girfriend play to support me?? I'm already ahead, so I repay her with PROTECTION once the beginner's protection ENDS!!? wsup devs??

Anonymous said...

I agree with the first post of X and darkice. However most devs probably feel like, "if you don't like it, leave" or "make your own game".

Just or unjust, there is no justice on the internet, but a helluva lotta of fools with a god complex.

Anonymous said...

I would hope that careful thought would be put in on RoE's side before a ban was decided. I can't imagine someone being paid to monitor the game and ban the crap out of anyone for no reason. Im sure that it is given a reasonable doubt before banning a player. I think that for those that do get banned... perhaps a chance to appeal would be good, but i would imagine that almost all would appeal. Maybe the straight forward (unforgiving) words chosen are more of a scare tactic.

Anonymous said...

I wish it was explained better WHY they wont give a reason for banning someone beyond the simple. I also would like an explaination why there isnt an appeal process. To just ban someone who might be innocent and say " whups! well, thats too bad." does not sound player friendly.

Lisa said...

A rule aiming at banning an "...account playing for the sole purpose of aiding another account, even if this account is controlled by a different person" is really b*s*. Must have been an especially bright mind getting this idea. If I want to keep helping a friend, I will need to defend my village and keep it healthy. So what's the problem?

And banning people for life without allowing appeal or even giving the reason is despotism. Despotic regimes tend to use the same reasoning of protecting their people to legitimate their obscure jurisdiction. 100% fairness isn't possible, but 100% lack of respect for customers (that's us players from whom the RoE team incl. that somewhat arrogant sounding guy Bubaribaman get their money from) apparently is.

Interesting.

Anonymous said...

Oh dear, seems like alot of people want to complain but clearly have not read the "TOU" (That's: "Terms Of Use" in lamen terms). A brief Five-Ten minutes to read the rules and you should have the basics... Still some posts here do make you laugh and are enlightening.. To all good morrow....Lol.

Anonymous said...

Its amazing how people constantly try to cheat...Its so simple...Whether you help your friends, family, wife or whatever, you won't get banned...But if you are using your family, friends, wife, huband as excuses to cheat, you are a looser an dwill get banned...

I bet you all these people trying to PRETEND that their kids, husband, cousins, sisters, brothers, and the list can go on are playing and helping them out are a bunch of freaking liars...They deserve to get banned...Anyone willing to defend these people are cheaters themselves...If you are not cheating you wouldn't have to worry about getting banned, that simple...

Stop cheating then you won't be so worried...

manfun186 said...

I'm am a male seeking male between 23 and 42. Must be adventuro. . . wait a minute, this isn't adult friend finder. Must have clicked the wrong link. damn!

Anonymous said...

Guys if you are playing this game to help your friends, ie support them with troops and the odd bit of silver ten I am sure that is fine with the admin staff. What is not ok is creating an account, sending troops to reinforce someone then stopping playing, or just sendind all of your silver to another. That is for the sole purpose of aiding that player. See the difference?

Anonymous said...

Just wondering.....
If you're not allowed to give money to another player why is the feature in the game?

Anonymous said...

One thing that bugs me...

Why is it that if someone is trying to gradually build up forces a more established player has to come in, wipe out all their recruits, and steal the amassed gold and food?

I understand that players need to do pre-emptive strikes within the game, but please, give someone a chance! The people doing this never attack to conquer, although someone else could easily do so afterward. The victimized player has no defense against this: no troops, no silver to recruit troops, and no food to feed troops. The victim is a sitting duck for any vulture in the game. If you're going to attack, attack strategically: to expand or to reduce realistic threat. By wiping out the player's defenses without attempting a takeover, the attacker is destroying his own buffer zone against a neighbor who might very well do the same thing to him or worse.
Think it over. There might be a time when you need the support of the player you've been pushing around like a bully. When the time comes, he might just sit tight, or worse, he'll be gone from the game, leaving you as prey.

RoEplayer said...

People, it says "for the SOLE purpose..." Nothing says you can't help out a friend or family as long as you're playing too and it isn't your SOLE purpose.

Now, can we finally get Lord_Jeremy on R3 banned please? I'm tired of seeing him and his clan of multi's rule the entire realm.

Anonymous said...

Have any of you (who are trying to rip apart their explanation of the rules) been banned? Or are you worried that you skirting the edge?

I would rather have a few "maybe" guys get booted than leave a lot of "fer sure" cheaters on.

But that's just me.

Anonymous said...

Nine people at the same address here with one wireless router.....We're being careful not to send too much support between us because we love the game and don't want to be banned.....

Anonymous said...

This new rule is hasty legislation. I don't know but what about those who paid thousands of dollars will they even get a refund? I haven't done multiple accounts in this game. I'm just concerned of those people who were judged wrongly. Your rule has advantage but has more disadvantages. What will you expect with the people's rating in this Facebook Application? Thank you.
you're fan...
-this is sam.

Anonymous said...

You are all taking it too far. By saying
"Creating an account for the sole purpose of aiding another account"
They simply mean that if you make an account ONLY so you can send you friend silver and support. They do not mean you can't help your friends, your families, your clans.

Beau said...

Why is everyone getting angry over the whole helping a friend thing? The amount of silver you can send even if all your buildings are maxed out is 80k.. that's not a big help in the grand scheme of things. I think this goes for people that are purposely creating accounts and allowing friends to take their villages... Unless you had tons of villages, trying to feed a friend with silver is pointless... on that note, if you have tons of villages, at one point you had to actually play the game..

Anonymous said...

man! yall are beating this thing to death. whatever happened to keeping it simple.

they're not saying "hey if someone you know is playing and helping you then you're band". i'm sure they have a way of checking the acitvity of each player.

if u and a million of your friends are playing then fine. they will see in account activity if someone is tranporting silver and not building. where the silver is going. they probably can check anything on their server. i dont know.

if you and ur friends are all in the same clan then whipity do da day. this is fine because you are doing it in interest of preserving the clan and it's well being in the realm.

to the guy that asked the stewardship question. get some info before believing everthing that's said on here. stewardship is allowable if in the same clan.

Anonymous said...

If any of the rules bother u then u must be cheating. not rocket science here.

Anonymous said...

im not understanding the helping rule. if u cant send help to each other whats the point of a trading post?

Anonymous said...

I was recently banned for profanity and I really thought I was in guidlines of the game.

So rule is rule that I am banned for life.

If I use another facebook account and get back in the game will that be considered cheating?

I really like the game and I guess I learned my leasson.

If ROE team can comment on this? I will be a great help otherwise I'll move onto somethng better bcz it was really not profanity on my part and no appeal!!!

People should deserve a chance to explain their situation.

Anonymous said...

I'm concerned about the 'accounts to help me' clause. I talked 3 other family (maybe 4) into joining RoE and my clan. Three use the same internet connection point. A fourth is a co-worker. do I have to worry? I support them more than the other way around.

Anonymous said...

I am playing with only one account and enjoying myself on ROE4 and ROE5...for playing on both realms i can't attend to my village on ROE3...

I thought i can play on any realms and at the same time so i played 3&4 but then 5 came out and this is much better...why am i always seeing the stop or your account will be banned...if this is only a public notice then...whew!!!

by the way, i would like to ask the staff to terminate my ROE3 three(3) are difficult to handle and planning my strategy is so confusing......

Thank you.....

JoeY Ubando (joey_ruj@yahoo.com or joey_ruj@hotmail.com)

Anonymous said...

Half of these rules are stupid.The person or persons who wrote this are idiots.my dog seems quite a bit smarter than them.Every clan is just helping and protecting eachother so technically almost every body should be banned not really my opinion.And not telling a player what their charge is unacceptable.Whats the harm in teling them what their charge is?I personally side with x and dark ice's comments they are much more sebsible and more fair.HOPE THE CRACKHEADS WHO MADE UP THE RULES READ THIS!

Anonymous said...

The people who made up those rules are stupid and idiotic.my dog has more brains in his left testacle than the people whoo made up the rules.The ''if you help out a friend on here then you will be banned'' is stupid because technically 99% of the people on here would be banned.And why cant they tell us our charge thats an american right.they arent at all telling us how they found out about it.I personally agree with X and Dark Ice their ideas are sensible.And i hope that the ****in idiots who made up the rules read this.

Anonymous said...

It is good to have rules...with no rules is chaos! However, RoE brought up the point that prisoners deny guilt! Well, of course they do! That is the American way. They deny guilt have a trial and even murderers get appeals! Innocent until PROVEN Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Which includes evidence shown. I agree with the rule breakers being banned but I also believe that they should have evidence proven and 1 appeal to prove innocence. Possible game suspension until they have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt they didn't knowing do any wrong.

Anonymous said...

there's no f***ing way the RoE admins can technically ban you .... what? have 1-10 guys watch over thousands of accounts transact daily, every hour .... looking at streams of datafields in the database servers for hours on end .... write a code that highlights no. of users sending 80K silver to one account ...you'll get your results 10-storeies high, every hour.

unless, they're NOT banning you for technical reasons ... i think these devs don't have a clue how to manage RTS game rules. I'm a dev, I should know. rules are just scare tactics - just to wield their powers.

don't take note as much what their rules say. just play it like you think you should. if you can cheat and get away with it, good for you, but eventually you'll be caught - or rimmed by other players. if you're not cheating and really playing with families/friends and would like to help them often, then do so. No one's gonna get banned for that. the first few who got banned were for "show trials". no one else is gonna get banned.

just play your game. i have multiple accounts for my family members and use them on one PC on a bi-hourly basis 24-hrs, everyday for the last one month. i've transported silver and send troops to all accounts and received as much as well. i'm stil in the game today, and playing in multi-realms.

what the heck, admins ... you guys posting such stupid rules ...

Mitaros said...

If you all do not like rules, then quit the game. Whining does no good. Follow the rules, have fun. If you do not like the rules, don't play. Simple.

Anonymous said...

So, I work in a very large building. We all share the same ISP. Some of the other employees are on my facebook friends list. If I invite them to join my clan in order to grow and conquer and grow... will I be banned for that?

Fluffy.c(the leader of the clan know as the pack in realm 5 on RoE) said...

i dont think you will be banned because it says join friend and form mighty clans

Fluffy.c said...

looking for new members for clan in realm 3 and a clan in realm 5

Gaara_Sami said...

Anybody looking to join a war clan should look up my clan "Gaara of the desert" in Realm 4, we have active members and our weakest member is at 900 pts, we would like an active member to join out clan for an invite look at our public profile and contact one of our leaders

Anonymous said...

justify your filtering process which is used to decide who is helping someone else too much, it is the purpose some joined the game, to help thier friend, what if they only have 1 friend on RoE... that sad person with 1 friend and that friend are going to get banned, what the hell RoE..... im willing to start a boycott to have this rule dismissed as it is unfair for you to decide who's helping someone too much. from being biased supporter? from being loyal to your friend or clan? it's not very practicle to make each person accused explain themselves and the situation and you have no right to ask it of them, you are game designers, not judges... act like it, granted the other rules make some sense, but this one is slightly contrary to the whole idea of the game really?

would any one join in on boycott to abolish this rule if thats what it takes? (better not get banned for surgesting a good idea and a means of showing what it means to the players).

Anonymous said...

It is obvious that the top players are using mutipal accounts and combining them together. Their villages are in groups in totally different area. Why aren't they banned??

Pascal said...

I fully realize that using multiple accounts is illegal along with a variety of collusion and conspicuous conspiracy .

That said , is it illegal for multiple players (persons) to use one single account ?

Realm 4 is advertised as a 15 minutes a day realm .
However , some players are doing so well ... it's inconceivable that they could achieve such high levels of success on even 8 hours a day .

I can only imagine that they have extra personnel and support staff to help out (eg farming runs being input in relays by a 2nd and/or 3rd person to increase financial reward) .


It's all good
Emperor_V (Orlando Pirates Inc) R4

Anonymous said...

I think that the whole reason for the no helping is because it is impossible to tell if someone just has two mates working together or a cheat using different FB accounts to grow their first they should get an appeall on that one at least though

Anonymous said...

I play on other MMORPG games - there they allow you ONE chance to appeal. Secondly, ever since I started seeing the TOU and Play Fair messages - Does the admin think I am guilty? I play very actively since I joined and I am hooked - is it going to be a problem?

Anonymous said...

X: By your "statement of defense" you are actually admitting your guilt. You state that you were "punished for being a generous, support oriented person"...

...and yet you also complain about not being told why you were banned. You know why you were banned... it was for "being a generous, support oriented person" who was playing for the direct benefit of another account.

Anonymous said...

sorry folks but
rules should be
1 no rules
2 may the best man win
3 wingers will be banned

miserable1980 said...

GREETINGS! I just want to ask help because some of my features now are not functioning. Its been 2 days now. 1. Village scrolling, 2. Village display, 3. ICON on top of my screen are not displaying of their features. Especially to the troops. If you will recruit, you are about to click the village in order to recruit not like before that the troops icon will this play their features. Hope we can fix this cause there are some other features also which i can elaborate some data. thanks

Anonymous said...

Looking for active players on r6 to join League of Dragons.

Linden said...

Does the following count as serious insults? I certainly found it abusive and it's not even aimed at me:
"Subject: Village names

sonjohn mathafcker(-272,108) 13,405
sonjohn mothafcker(-264,122) 14,996
sonjohn sonofabitch(-284,107) 12,160
sonjohn sonofabitch(-283,107) 11,926
"

This is in realm 6

Artos said...

I think you are over complicating this game and taking a good deal of fun out of it...

I do think offensive material should be banned along with players playing with various self created acconts using different nick names...

But the many other rules should be drastically simplified, starting from stewardship... I think it should be as simple as either you allow stewardship or not. Anything else is senseless. If you allw stewardship, then stewards can do with the accounts whatever they want for 30 days before it goes abandoned if the owner doesn't return to the game... or you just don't allow stewardship and all accounts go bandoned if inactive for longer than 15 days...

Jen said...

I've been playing ROE for a long time, and I am happy to see several things clarified, regardless of weather or not people agree with them.

Anonymous said...

Huh. Well as I am new to this game, a few things don't make sense. but I expect this is normal.
I think that as long as you have fun and give it your best; you should be ok.

Anonymous said...

i belive that both show the money and shadow are of the are person

Anonymous said...

I find all these comments humorous. The reason games like this are to have fun. And with the statement Marcus made about the "tissue", this is why there are so many abandoned villages.

Sure this is purely a game. However, one's idea of playing a game may be for relaxation, while another person's idea is to pick on the little guys because of an inferiority complex. THIS is the reason why they are saying you will be banned. If you feel you need to prove a point because life isn't fair and you have friends that feel the same and create accounts only to bully other players, then you should be banned. Now, if you read the rule carefully, it says nothing about forming a clan, challenging a village, and moving on. If you read the rules carefully, this blog would only have one or two entries.

What we all need to do is follow the established rules. Therefore, if you do get banned for following the rules, you have a legitimate leg to stand on. The creators haven't thought of every scenario around the rules, but they have a point. Think of Shawshank Redemption. Anyone who's been in jail or prison, or knows someone who has been in jail or prison, will say the same thing...I'm innocent. Innocent, until proven guilty, and if you're not following the rules, then you're guilty and should be banned.

Anonymous said...

To begin with, I love the game, it is great. OK. I have to admit I really do not like comments like this "After all, how many guilty criminals are there in the prisons of the world?". In the real world it has been proven that there are many many people imprisoned unjustly and without a cause, especially in the US. This is a fact, not my opinion. So comments like these are no good. Imagine if you yourself would be unjustly imprisoned for something you never did. Not a good thought, is it?
The american justice system is sick and you should not have your rules according to that rotten system. With kind regards, a player.

wessly said...

eawell for most part i say its a game life isnt fair get used to it but i do agree that when someone gets banned they should be clearly told why and what reasons they r for and an appiel come on people look how many people are out there that r inocent do there appiels yet are still found guilty if the adm. dont want you to play then he prolly wont change his mind and where r u gonna get real proof ur inocent cause nine times out of ten your proof isnt really proof at all. its life and prolly will never change just play the game and have fun if they bann you then go find a better game there r tuns of them available

Anonymous said...

the rules are fine. the admin refusal to say why someone is banned or hear appeals is NOT fine.

i personally was suspended, supposedly for 24 hours but in fact for more like 40, for breaking stewardship rules. i'm still trying to figure out how i managed to do that since i neither steward nor (until recently) am stewarded. (exception: twice, someone assigned me as a steward, and since i don't DO that, both times i just transferred the stewardship to someone else; both this AND my being stewarded briefly a few days ago happened long after the suspension to which i refer).

obviously i am innocent of breaking stewardship rules if i don't steward or get stewarded, yet i had no recourse. furthermore, admin, in its messaage saying i was suspended (which actually used the word BANNED) said not to bother showing proof i was innocent because they'd never seen any convincing proof. well how COULD they if they won't accept any communication about it? and why should i have to prove my innocence? how do i prove i didn't do something? shouldn't they have to prove i DID, or at least offer some kind of minimaal evidence,and offer a chance to refute it? and in order to prove i did it, don't they have to say WHAT i did? (and how would saying that reveal "tactics"?)

it leaves a bitter taste in the mouth, for sure. it's roe's game. they can do what they want. but why do they want to be unfair?

Geuse said...

okay let me get this straight... if i send a friend invite... they can't help me even though you put them as close to me as possible so they could help me...? Okay i get that. just started playing this game... maybe i should start quitting this game too.

8 10 11 12 15 16 said...

wow taking everything the devs say literally out of context. nice one, blame the devs for not making what they say 100% clear, well to kids at least. glad adults understand exactly what it refers to.

It is harsh yes about that, however you are the ones who forget, this is not just a helping game, its mostly a war game.

who cares bout absorbing inactives, devs dont affect this as to many people do it, to ban them would mean to ban the entire realm.

as long as it is legit inactive and not a stew gifting then its ok.

honestly some of you lecture others bout getting a life, but here you are in this forum, admit it you also need a life, i know i am willing to admit to that much lol.

npw shape up, cause here i come all.

Don said...

I actually have to agree with some of the posters. Not having an appeal process is garbage. For those who are banned, I also agree that the vast majority probably ARE guilty as charged. But, that being said, an appeals process guarantees at least the appearance of honesty. Otherwise a player, playing honestly, could be vindictively banned with no recourse. I would reccommend an appeals court consisting of the top 9 clan owners in each realm (a supreme court if you will.) They could hear appeals from both the player and RoE and then make a decision based on facts. During the appeal process, (the court rendering decisions monthly) the player would be under protection similar to that of a beginner, except he could not access his account. After a decision was reached, a simple email to each party could render the decision to the parties. A second offense would be grounds for permanent dismissal, if a player was found to be culpable but not totally guilty. I don't know. It seems like a way to make everyone happy. A player that was visibly guilty would be a fool to make an appeal. But an honest player that had made a mistake unintentionally, could get a second chance. Hopefully he would read the rules more carefully and we would never see him in the process again.

Anonymous said...

Catch me if you can. I have a lot more than one or two helping me. I've been playing for months & have not had any wrnings on any of my aliases. You're not near as good as you think you are.

Anonymous said...

first of all if you dont like their rules then dont play they wont change them and y should they u have been told before starting to play about the rules (if u read them i have not)but i under stand them and i chose to play just like all of u no one made u play so just play by the rules or dont play and for all of those who go anonymous they can still find u it just so no other player can

Anonymous said...

so tell me... if you're so concerned about how people play your game, why do you insist on throwing us into that "invite your friends" torment? You have to know that as many as half or more of the people on our friends list are in fact our families?? I'm afraid to invite anyone I already know for fear that you'll decide I'm a cheater, so I don't invite any of them.

Marius Sardinha said...

Just play the game and let the game organizers worry about all those that try their luck to manipulate the Game ! It is a game after all, so enjoy it, win or loose !

Marius Sardinha said...

After reading all the comments, I personally think everyone should concentrate on the game and enjoy playing the game, after all it is only a game ! if you get annoyed for whatever reason .......stop playing and quit ! THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WILL DO ONCE I HAD MY FUN ( BORED WITH THE GAME) ! Happy fighting. Excalibur

Anonymous said...

lulz,, alot of people should read the articles comments before asking questions that were already resolved :P this is humourous.

I don't know what your peoples problems are with the Terms of Use set by the Developers, yet they are rules we must abide by. Discrimination has played a greater part in the banning process than any other topic to my knowledge (whether it be sexual, racial or age) and those people would Know why they were banned if they can remember what they said to people in the game.

I may have had enemies before, yet the Devs are not one of them.

Hats off to you guys for doing such an awesome job! Keep up the good work!! ^^ ..just don't go multi-lingual (that'll just create racial issues).

Unknown said...

Greg I have a question.I have been with Roe for years sense realm 2.I have been here that long and did not read the TOU I may have made a mistake and want to get it corrected or atleast see what I can do to correct my mistake .you may contact me via wareagle11@yahoo.com to get a quicker resalotion.Thanks mike

Mike said...

Greg I have a question.I have been with Roe for years sense realm 2.I have been here that long and did not read the TOU I may have made a mistake and want to get it corrected or atleast see what I can do to correct my mistake .you may contact me via wareagle11@yahoo.com to get a quicker resalotion.Thanks mike